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Confederate Flags in Christmas Parades the New Racist Issue with Christmas

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It is not just Dukes of Hazard on TV they want to ban. Now they are going after the Sons of Confederate Veterans for marching in Christmas parades. From Brunswick, Georgia comes the news of what appears to be a new wrinkle in the never ending war on Christmas: racism.

The Confederate flag has been a topic of controversy for some time now, especially during Christmas when members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans walk in the annual city parade with what some say is a racist display. “This is a symbol and a sign of a lot of pain and a lot of anger,” said Pastor Ken Adkins.

That’s why Adkins wrote a letter to several city officials, demanding the flags be taken down across Brunswick, especially during this year’s Christmas parade. “I think really it’s now time to have a discussion here in Glynn County, here in Brunswick,” said Adkins.

“If it offends people, that saddens me and my inclination would be to say it should not be used or displayed where it offends people,” said Jeff Kilgore.

But Jeff Kilgore says despite the controversy, the flag is more than just a piece of fabric, it’s history. “The flag has become controversial unfortunately and has been appropriated by hate groups and has been used inappropriately,” said Kilgore.

“Why didn’t you make the people who were using your flag as a symbol of hate and racism, why didn’t you all who said it’s my heritage, it’s my history, say something then?” said Adkins.

The annual Christmas parade in Brunswick has featured the flag and the Sons of Confederate Veterans for generations.

It has never been an issue in Brunswick — until now.

You can expect this to be just the first of several stories of Christmas parades in America that will deal with the Confederate flag this year.



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Santa Jim LSU Fan

I hope I don't step on too many toes with my opinions.

 

I am eligible for membership in Sons of Confederate Veterans - but don't belong. The folks I know who are members generally seem like nice people and as far as I can tell, they are members because of history and heritage not because they think the South should have won. 

 

I collect flags and study history. I think I am correct when I say that the Confederate battle flag that offends so many people was not in general use throughout the War Between the States, and originally was a navy jack. A square "southern cross" pattern was part of a Confederate national flag adopted about midway through the conflict. Anyway, flags are symbols, and the flag that now offends so many became a symbol of southern pride mostly after the war. In the 1960s, the southern cross was unfortunately used by some folks in the south as a symbol of defiance of the federal government and integration. It sickens me that hate groups have also sometimes used the southern cross. I think the southern cross has evolved (or devolved) to symbolize racism or hate for many good people - despite the same flag being a symbol of heritage or pride for many other good folks. 

 

Normally I get PO'ed about folks falling over to be politically correct. However, I think that because the southern cross is an offensive symbol to so many good folks, it is time to retire that flag - especially it should be retired from government buildings and facilities. I also think that the several states that incorporate a southern cross design into their state flags need a new state flag - especially Georgia and Mississippi (Alabama and Florida might want to think about their red St. Andrews Cross designs). 

 

I am very proud of my heritage as an American, a Southerner, and a Texan (who grew up in Louisiana). There are plenty of other available symbols of pride and heritage that are less offensive (currently) that could be used. A version of the state's flag that existed at the time of the various reenactors' regiments would work. A replica of a regimental flag likely would work in many cases. The Stars and Bars Confederate National flag would work. How about the current state flag (except see above for a few states) ? 

 

Custom made flags are pretty cheap. I have a custom made Texas Lone Star flag - in LSU's purple and gold colors - that was only about $10 more than a standard Texas flag in a 3' x 5' size. It sure does annoy my neighbors during football season. It was made in Fort Worth Texas at Lone Star Flags http://www.lonestarbannersandflags.com These good folks were happy to also custom make a few of my other flags for only slightly more than the cost of a ready made flag in the same size and same level of design complexity.

 

 

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Chris Capstone

I don't have a dog in this fight (hope I didn't offend any dog lovers.) But maybe this symbol of racism is next? They think so at University of CA Irvine.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/professors-us-flag-symbolizes-racism-should-not-be-displayed-on-campus-a-group-of-university-prof/question-4755706/

 

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And, just so you don't miss it, here's a really big one:

 

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The world is a magical place...filled with people waiting to be offended by something. :wow:

 

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Chris Capstone

NEWS FLASH!!!This just in from California. A compromise has been reached and the American flag will NOT be banned on University of CA irvine's campus:

 

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Santa Bob of Tulsa

The bottom line is the Confederate flag needs to, and is going to, finally come down. This subject can only offend and cause members to go off the rails, why not pull it.

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Chris Capstone

Yes, that flag it so harmful.  Those politicians are being so sensitive, caring and helpful by getting rid of it. I'm sure getting rid of it will solve everything. Once all those mean and nasty flags are gone racism will disappear because Merica is a magical place!

 

It will also solve this

 

Black poverty rate: 24.2% vs 11.8% general population

 

Black unemployment rate: 10.2 vs 5.3% general population

 

Black high school graduation rate: 63.6% vs 80.6% general population

 

Yep, those politicians really care about the problems of the black community and they will show just how much they care by banning a flag because as we all know, that will be a highly symbolic gesture and symbolic gestures are what politics is all about.

 

For more facts about the condtion of the black community (err African American, sorry my bad) check out this link:

 

http://blackdemographics.com/

 

And for all you dyed in the wool Dukes of Hazard fans (I'm not one) check this out:

 

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Santa Bendron

Georgia hasn't had the battle flag design in its state flag for more than a decade.

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Felix Estridge

Elf Hermey has been cautioned about posting topics that further issues on racism, politics, and religion.

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