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Drosselmeyer

So

it's not even out yet and the negative reviews have started...

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Disney is bringing out their version of The Nutcracker -- and you may want to hide the kids. This is Alice in Wonderland meets the Avengers.

I am going to hold judgement on this one.  Much like "the Man Who Invented Christmas" I don't think you should go into this movie with preconceptions or expectations.  In the recent "Lone Ranger" movie with Johnny Depp, I think folks expected a flat retelling of the old story, not a new interpretation. There was a knee-jerk reaction against it because it wasn't just like the original. This looks to be a new, stylized interpretation of elements of the story.  It impresses me as a steampunk fantasy.  Of course now you have live action, special effects, and CGI.  This is not going to be the traditional recognized ballet....

And by the way, for as much as it is known and loved, the Tchaikovsky hated  the Nutcracker - he thought is was meaningless fluff.  But remember, the story is a child's fantasy, a dream.  Dreams can take different forms.  This is somebody's new storyline for the dream.  Like it or not - the Avengers are pretty cool right now - why wouldn't the movie industry capitalize on that?  if you are an old-school purist you may not like it, but that doesn't make it wrong, it just makes it different.  The original Nutcracker had sword battles and cannons and monster mice - pretty intense stuff for its day.  This is trying to appeal to the kids of this generation - pretty sure most of them aren't into classical ballet.

I am going to see this movie.  The worst is I will have wasted 2 hours on some mindless entertainment.  I don't expect to go see the Nutcracker ballet.  I have been pleasantly surprised by some movies, disappointed by others.  I will hold judgement on this one until after I have seen it...

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Drosselmeyer

and for the record - I do like the Nutcracker ballet.

my favorite version by far was from the 80s.  The costuming and sets were done by children's illustrator Maurice Sendak.  A wonderful presentation of the ballet.  it was not available for a good while, but Amazon resurrected it on DVD....

https://www.amazon.com/Nutcracker-Motion-Picture-Hugh-Bigney/dp/B006A8XFM6/ref=sr_1_2?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1534081768&sr=1-2&keywords=nutcracker+sendak

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Michael Rielly

meh.

I agree with this...

 

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Santa Johnny Boy
17 hours ago, Michael Rielly said:

meh.

I agree with this...

 

I a similar reaction when I watched the trailer...

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Michael Rielly

Yeah. Enough already. We got it. All white men are evil or incompetent.

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Santa Bruce Geron

Call me a traditionalist, but give me the Tchaikovsky ballet and I'll be fine. 

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Michael Rielly
2 hours ago, Santa Bruce Geron said:

Call me a traditionalist, but give me the Tchaikovsky ballet and I'll be fine. 

Brings me to tears every time. Seriously.

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Santa Johnathan
On 8/13/2018 at 1:03 PM, Michael Rielly said:

Yeah. Enough already. We got it. All white men are evil or incompetent.

I’m right there with you...they even did it to...Star Wars!? 😭 Having a teenage daughter, I love that there are some kick-butt, empowering female roles, but I think the pendulum has moved a bit too far in some cases.  

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Drosselmeyer

Disney's Nutcracker and the Four Realms set for release January 29, 2019

https://www.dvdsreleasedates.com/movies/8359/the-nutcracker-and-the-four-realms

this was NOT a retelling of the Tchaikovsky ballet - but a movie version of a parallel storyline titled "the Nutcracker and the Mouse King" by ETA Hoffman

Clara is searching for the special key to unlock a box from her late mother. Inside that box is a priceless item that her mother left for her. During her godfather's yearly holiday party, Clara almost gets the key but it disappears. She embarks on a quest into a mysterious world which has four different realms: a snowflakes realm, flowers realm, sweets realm, and the challenging realm where the key is. As she undertakes her journey she meets different characters including Phillip who is a soldier and a gang of mice. Will Clara be able to gain the key to receive her late mother's special gift?

sounds like the movie was a flop for Disney - lots of steampunk eye candy but not a lot of substance - the story was overtly predictable - and really didn't have much to do with Christmas (other than this story happens at  a Christmas ball)

The-Nutcracker-and-the-Four-Realms-2018.

here's a montage of the video release previews:

pretty sure I will pick up a copy - just because

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Jason2274
On 8/13/2018 at 1:15 PM, Santa Bruce Geron said:

Call me a traditionalist, but give me the Tchaikovsky ballet and I'll be fine. 

Just saw it in December for the second time live. Absolutely fabulous.

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