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Facebook Beacon ruined Christmas and a group of its members are not going to let the social networking site forget it. A group of irked Facebook members filed a class-action lawsuit against Facebook Tuesday that said the company’s controversial Beacon advertising program violates several laws, including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA), the Computer Fraud [...]View the full article

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Carlo Klemm

I'm on Facebook and I watch what fads I get involved with. It is a good social piece and I've kept some of my personal information private. I don't buy over Facebook, and my friends are truly friends, not just someone I've met once or so. I've rejected a lot of people as friends as I have on MySpace. There my site is for Santas only and I've explained that to people who want to be friends and they understand.

I get more "let's be friends requests" on SKYPE than anywhere else.

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Michael Rielly

All: A warning about Facebook and MySpace:

I will be spending this week trying to remove a trojan from my kid's laptop. It appear that hackers are now targeting Facebook and MySpace to spread malicious programs. Once (and if) I ever remove the trojan from his laptop, I will be blocking his computer from visiting Facebook and MySpace.

I know a few of you use Facebook and MySpace, but I have to tell you, as software professional and a borderline geek, I highly recommend against it. Also, as Santas, I am surprised you would actually want to have these sites. There are too many negative Facebook/MySpace incidents out there that I would think as Santa you would want to stay clear of.

My $0.02...

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Carlo Klemm

Thanks for the warnings Mike.

I was on Facebook long before ClausNET so this comes as good advice for those considering it.

Let me know if you are successful in getting out of Facebook as I understand there is a complicated procedure to do that.

As for MySpace I'll consider pullimg out of there as I only use the site to promote myself and my Santa friends there. I don't answer e-mails unless it's from one of them and I don't add friends unless they are a Santa

That said I'll take another look at MySpace.

Once again thanks Mike.

By the way, what safeguards are with ClausNET to prevent trojans etc? I know you can keep something like that out through the server but what if a members site is affected and through ClausNET we visit that site.

Just a question. Thanks

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Michael Rielly
Thanks for the warnings Mike.

I was on Facebook long before ClausNET so this comes as good advice for those considering it.

Let me know if you are successful in getting out of Facebook as I understand there is a complicated procedure to do that.

I don't have a Facebook account, so I don't really know what's involved at removing your account there.

By the way, what safeguards are with ClausNET to prevent Trojans etc? I know you can keep something like that out through the server but what if a members site is affected and through ClausNET we visit that site.

Just a question. Thanks

Simple. I am the only one that has access to the code that makes up ClausNET. Hence, I am the only one that can modify the site.

The Facebook and MySpace malware programs are coming from widgets that owners add to their sites to enhance the site. For example, there may be a widget that plays music when visitors go the site. The owner loads the widget to his or her site thinking this is cool or improves the visitors experience. Unbeknown to the owner of the site the widget actually places a bit of code on the visitors computer. This is exactly why my kid now has a Trojan on his computer.

What people don't realize is every time you visit ANY website, bits and pieces of that website are downloaded to your computer. That's how the WWW works. When you visit a website, you are essentially viewing files that have been temporarily downloaded to your computer. Right this very second, this image right here ----> :) is now a file on your computer. Programmers have figured out all sorts of very clever ways to pack viruses and other malicious software into images, graphics and other aspects of websites.

As for potential malware or viruses from ClausNET; I have several safeguards currently in place to ward off an attack. Also, keep in mind that ClausNET is built on a purchased software application. Meaning that I pay maintenance for continual upgrades, service packs, and security. This is NOT the case for other sites. Free sites built on YahooGroups or MSNGroups are for the most part safe, but many sites, including a couple of Santa related sites, are built on FREE or OPEN software applications. These sites are notorious for getting hacked or spreading malware.

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Carlo Klemm

Thanks Mike for the explanation. I now feel even more secure about this network. You have done a lot with ClausNET and have made it a happy and safe place, THANK YOU!

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Laffo

I agree and disagree with some of this.

I agree that a Santa career may not be the best thing for MySpace/Facebook due to bad events that have occurred connected to the site, and the sensitive nature of what we do. A working children's Santa obviously must be beyond reproach.

MySpace however is INVALUABLE to my Corndog Business, The Drive-In, My Art Career, My Musical Acts, the Festivals we run and a zillion other things we do. They do have their place. All of my accounts are 21 and over, that is my responsibility as the Moderator of that profile. Some of my profiles are Comedic and have Adult themes, as far as language and humor, and aren't meant for kids. That being said, I believe underage use of the sites should be heavily monitored or stopped like you suggest.

I think a 16 and under social network with heavy moderation and parental consent and notification is what should be started. This IS possible as YouTube has been able to do it. Now that being said, I disagree that they are the biggest risk, straight run of the mill chat rooms pose much more of a risk to children and have contributed geometrically to more predatory crimes than Facebook or MySpace combined. I think the dangers of these network sites (FB and MS) are kind of like a Shark Attack. They happen, no doubt, but happen rarely, and when they do, they make the news.

Canceling an account on either service is not that hard. There are just steps to follow, but they will still show up in search engines for quite a while.

You want to read something terrifying, check this out: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html

As far as Trojan and the like - one word - MAC. And yes Virginia, it will run Windows.

I agree that this is the best and most even handed santa resource around, and Thanks for making the the ONLY santa site or affiliation I care to have anything to do with.

Laffo

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Elf Gary

Actually, i have to check MYSPACE, sometimes frequently as it is the only way i can get in touch with old friends, and i have made some Movie Industry contacts.

Also i find that someone PROFOUNDLY importaint to me from my past has been keeping up with my log-ins,whenever she checks in.

There is no open communication (with good reason) but checking in shows i am still here :hug: .

if it weren't for that i would leave it alone, in the modern world sometimes sometimes you cannot avoid keeping in touch this way. :gamer:

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